Timothy B. Lee, author of the Understanding AI newsletter and fastenal host of the AI Summer podcast, joins Robert Wright to discuss whether AI is a “normal technology” or something much, much more. claude for small business
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0:00 Teaser
1:00 Is AI a normal technology?
6:31 Mythos and the METR curve
16:24 The current state of coding agents
20:41 The total turbulence problem
23:42 Does Mythos favor offense or defense?
29:50 Mythos and hype
32:30 Regulating dangerous AI
38:48 The centralization problem
40:53 Heading to Overtime
Discussed in Overtime:
Tesla vs. Waymo.
Altman on trial.
Elon's new compute empire.
Will humans still metro b roma have jobs?
The future of status, striving and service work.
Getting sentimental about AIs.
How Tim uses AI.
Tim's pricey robot dog.
Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Timothy B. Lee (Full Stack Economics, Understanding AI, AI Summer). Recorded May 11, 2026.
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